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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2009/12/dealing-bad-advice/#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kaye&#8212;especially after my bad advice experiences, I&#039;m fairly well convinced that being published doesn&#039;t magically endow authors with all the writing knowledge of the universe and make them experts on craft, structure, grammar, voice and everything else that goes into a book. Of course, some do take the time to really study and learn those topics, but sometimes as unpublished authors we look at published authors as if they walk on water.

@Ali&#8212;I just got some advice like that from people within the publishing industry. I still haven&#039;t figured out if these people were right or just not familiar enough with the genre (my beta readers within the genre really liked this aspect of the book).

@Carol&#8212;Oh, that&#039;s a good one! Trying to be something we&#039;re not is a great way to kill not only our writing but our passion.

@Andrew&#8212;Your worst advice reminds me of the time I went into the guidance office at the College of Humanities to declare my second major (American Studies, in addition to Linguistics), and the guidance counselor asked me with a more-than-healthy dose of skepticism, &quot;And what do you want to be?&quot;

(Lady, you advise in the &lt;em&gt;Humanities&lt;/em&gt; department. Very few of these majors lead directly to jobs.)

I told her I planned to be a writer. I may as well have told her I planned to scrape barnacles from zeppelins. She looked at me like I was the stupidest thing that had ever graced her office for two minutes between classes and handed me a pamphlet for a freshman career development course.

However, I feel compelled to wait until I have a contract to gloat ;) .

I totally agree that the &quot;rules&quot; are designed to prevent excess and have been completely misapplied. (I joke that if we&#039;re not allowed to use any adjectives, our characters will end up having &quot;eyes, a nose and a mouth.&quot; Vivid, I know.) 

@Annette&#8212;I think the only time that we should write what we know is in writing &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt;. A writer should understand human nature and behavior (and understand how that applies in fiction, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kaye&mdash;especially after my bad advice experiences, I&#8217;m fairly well convinced that being published doesn&#8217;t magically endow authors with all the writing knowledge of the universe and make them experts on craft, structure, grammar, voice and everything else that goes into a book. Of course, some do take the time to really study and learn those topics, but sometimes as unpublished authors we look at published authors as if they walk on water.</p>
<p>@Ali&mdash;I just got some advice like that from people within the publishing industry. I still haven&#8217;t figured out if these people were right or just not familiar enough with the genre (my beta readers within the genre really liked this aspect of the book).</p>
<p>@Carol&mdash;Oh, that&#8217;s a good one! Trying to be something we&#8217;re not is a great way to kill not only our writing but our passion.</p>
<p>@Andrew&mdash;Your worst advice reminds me of the time I went into the guidance office at the College of Humanities to declare my second major (American Studies, in addition to Linguistics), and the guidance counselor asked me with a more-than-healthy dose of skepticism, &#8220;And what do you want to be?&#8221;</p>
<p>(Lady, you advise in the <em>Humanities</em> department. Very few of these majors lead directly to jobs.)</p>
<p>I told her I planned to be a writer. I may as well have told her I planned to scrape barnacles from zeppelins. She looked at me like I was the stupidest thing that had ever graced her office for two minutes between classes and handed me a pamphlet for a freshman career development course.</p>
<p>However, I feel compelled to wait until I have a contract to gloat <img src='http://jordanmccollum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>I totally agree that the &#8220;rules&#8221; are designed to prevent excess and have been completely misapplied. (I joke that if we&#8217;re not allowed to use any adjectives, our characters will end up having &#8220;eyes, a nose and a mouth.&#8221; Vivid, I know.) </p>
<p>@Annette&mdash;I think the only time that we should write what we know is in writing <em>people</em>. A writer should understand human nature and behavior (and understand how that applies in fiction, too).</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2009/12/dealing-bad-advice/#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Write what you know.&quot; It should have been, &quot;What what you&#039;re willing to learn about&quot; or &quot;Write what interests you.&quot;

The worst feedback I ever got (not really advice) was in a contest where the judge said I must have some endurance because I&#039;d finished an entire manuscript. Um, thanks, dude--it wasn&#039;t my first one. It was something like my SIXTH. If that was the best they could say about it . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Write what you know.&#8221; It should have been, &#8220;What what you&#8217;re willing to learn about&#8221; or &#8220;Write what interests you.&#8221;</p>
<p>The worst feedback I ever got (not really advice) was in a contest where the judge said I must have some endurance because I&#8217;d finished an entire manuscript. Um, thanks, dude&#8211;it wasn&#8217;t my first one. It was something like my SIXTH. If that was the best they could say about it . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Iapetus999</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2009/12/dealing-bad-advice/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>Iapetus999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst advice? Ever? Probably that I shouldn&#039;t go into Computer Science because I&#039;ll turn into a penniless burnout. That cost me two years of being in the wrong major in college.

Worst writing advice? I pretty much agree with Kaye about the &quot;rules.&quot; The rules don&#039;t apply to me. Not because I&#039;m a gooder writer, but because I see that most of the &quot;rules&quot; are more about controlling excess vs. creating prohibitions. If adverbs and adjectives are bad, then why did we invent them? It&#039;s like vegetarianism. If Gd didn&#039;t want us to eat animals, then why did He make them out of meat? I&#039;m not saying we should eat all-meat diets. But all-veggie diets are lacking something too. Writing should be balanced as well. Sprinkle in some adjectives and adverbs here and there for flavor. Partial sentences. Long run-ons that seem to go on forever but they take the reader to an interesting place.

I say just go for it, and if it sucks, someone will tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst advice? Ever? Probably that I shouldn&#8217;t go into Computer Science because I&#8217;ll turn into a penniless burnout. That cost me two years of being in the wrong major in college.</p>
<p>Worst writing advice? I pretty much agree with Kaye about the &#8220;rules.&#8221; The rules don&#8217;t apply to me. Not because I&#8217;m a gooder writer, but because I see that most of the &#8220;rules&#8221; are more about controlling excess vs. creating prohibitions. If adverbs and adjectives are bad, then why did we invent them? It&#8217;s like vegetarianism. If Gd didn&#8217;t want us to eat animals, then why did He make them out of meat? I&#8217;m not saying we should eat all-meat diets. But all-veggie diets are lacking something too. Writing should be balanced as well. Sprinkle in some adjectives and adverbs here and there for flavor. Partial sentences. Long run-ons that seem to go on forever but they take the reader to an interesting place.</p>
<p>I say just go for it, and if it sucks, someone will tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol J. Garvin</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2009/12/dealing-bad-advice/#comment-1694</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol J. Garvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was once told I should work hard to create a specific voice. For a long time I struggled to be someone I wasn&#039;t, and my writing was stilted. I discovered I did my best writing when I let my own thoughts pour uncontrolled onto the page. Being myself was far better than trying to be a copy of someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once told I should work hard to create a specific voice. For a long time I struggled to be someone I wasn&#8217;t, and my writing was stilted. I discovered I did my best writing when I let my own thoughts pour uncontrolled onto the page. Being myself was far better than trying to be a copy of someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2009/12/dealing-bad-advice/#comment-1692</link>
		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really great people gave me advice, which I took. But the result was, that my story totally lost its voice. Attended a writers&#039; workshop that was specific to my genre and market and discovered that the advice my writer friends had given me was totally wrong for my market. I went back to my story and with great happiness and glee returned my story to a better version of how it was before.

What I learned was, that even though you might respect and admire another writer, what works for their genre/market may not work for your own. Each genre/market has its own standards, so do your homework before killing yoursel to change your story on the word of someone who might not, in fact, know what they&#039;re talking about as it applies to your story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really great people gave me advice, which I took. But the result was, that my story totally lost its voice. Attended a writers&#8217; workshop that was specific to my genre and market and discovered that the advice my writer friends had given me was totally wrong for my market. I went back to my story and with great happiness and glee returned my story to a better version of how it was before.</p>
<p>What I learned was, that even though you might respect and admire another writer, what works for their genre/market may not work for your own. Each genre/market has its own standards, so do your homework before killing yoursel to change your story on the word of someone who might not, in fact, know what they&#8217;re talking about as it applies to your story.</p>
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