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	<title>Comments on: Finding your weakness</title>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2010/01/finding-weakness/#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kill your darlings&quot; is &quot;much attributed,&quot; but far predates Stephen King. Apparently the original comes from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Quiller-Couch#Legacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch&lt;/a&gt; (who died before King was born), in his lecture series at Cambridge (which he began in 1912), where he advised, &quot;Murder your darlings.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kill your darlings&#8221; is &#8220;much attributed,&#8221; but far predates Stephen King. Apparently the original comes from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Quiller-Couch#Legacy">Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch</a> (who died before King was born), in his lecture series at Cambridge (which he began in 1912), where he advised, &#8220;Murder your darlings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Clark</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2010/01/finding-weakness/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it&#039;s hard to let go of scenes that you love even if they don&#039;t move the story forward, but I always think of Stephen King&#039;s On Writing advice (M. Gray, I love his book -- it&#039;s great): Kill your darlings. King is actually talking about characters you like, but I think it works for scenes too.

And I always save those scenes in another document, because there might be something I can use in a different work.

I find those boring scenes by printing out the manuscript and going through it with a pen. As I read each page, I mark the sections that have conflict with &quot;CONFLICT,&quot; and similarly mark sections that show character or add story information. When I&#039;m doing my revision, if there&#039;s a page or scene that doesn&#039;t have at least one of these markings on it, I know it had to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#8217;s hard to let go of scenes that you love even if they don&#8217;t move the story forward, but I always think of Stephen King&#8217;s On Writing advice (M. Gray, I love his book &#8212; it&#8217;s great): Kill your darlings. King is actually talking about characters you like, but I think it works for scenes too.</p>
<p>And I always save those scenes in another document, because there might be something I can use in a different work.</p>
<p>I find those boring scenes by printing out the manuscript and going through it with a pen. As I read each page, I mark the sections that have conflict with &#8220;CONFLICT,&#8221; and similarly mark sections that show character or add story information. When I&#8217;m doing my revision, if there&#8217;s a page or scene that doesn&#8217;t have at least one of these markings on it, I know it had to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Carey</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2010/01/finding-weakness/#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beta readers are great for this. I also notice that when I go back through and read my stuff, I&#039;ll think, &quot;Not this part again.&quot; That&#039;s a pretty good sign something needs to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beta readers are great for this. I also notice that when I go back through and read my stuff, I&#8217;ll think, &#8220;Not this part again.&#8221; That&#8217;s a pretty good sign something needs to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2010/01/finding-weakness/#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew&#8212;Of course, this is for everyone else ;) .

@Deb&#8212;Awesome! Most moms are too kind to help with anything. (My mom&#039;s great, English degree, former English teacher, current academic coach. She&#039;s told me a few things, but I know she holds back because she doesn&#039;t want hurt my feelings.)

@M&#8212;I totally agree on writing with the door closed. I&#039;m not sure critique groups are for me, since I don&#039;t dare show my first chapter until the last chapter is written (in my last WIP, I changed who the bad guy was in the opening scene twice), and then I&#039;m really impatient about getting the whole thing through. I don&#039;t think six weeks (or really, nearly any amount of time at all) can always be enough to find plot holes&#8212;often holes are things that we just forgot to explain, but already know about, so we think they&#039;re in there.

@Carol&#8212;Oh, I hear you. I keep wanting to move scenes around in my story, but then I run into problems like &quot;Oh, but Character C can&#039;t do Y here; she doesn&#039;t know about X yet. That would make Y cruel here. It only makes sense where it is.&quot; Readers really do help. I&#039;ve found myself combining scenes a lot to keep in the info I needed and still move the story along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew&mdash;Of course, this is for everyone else <img src='http://jordanmccollum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>@Deb&mdash;Awesome! Most moms are too kind to help with anything. (My mom&#8217;s great, English degree, former English teacher, current academic coach. She&#8217;s told me a few things, but I know she holds back because she doesn&#8217;t want hurt my feelings.)</p>
<p>@M&mdash;I totally agree on writing with the door closed. I&#8217;m not sure critique groups are for me, since I don&#8217;t dare show my first chapter until the last chapter is written (in my last WIP, I changed who the bad guy was in the opening scene twice), and then I&#8217;m really impatient about getting the whole thing through. I don&#8217;t think six weeks (or really, nearly any amount of time at all) can always be enough to find plot holes&mdash;often holes are things that we just forgot to explain, but already know about, so we think they&#8217;re in there.</p>
<p>@Carol&mdash;Oh, I hear you. I keep wanting to move scenes around in my story, but then I run into problems like &#8220;Oh, but Character C can&#8217;t do Y here; she doesn&#8217;t know about X yet. That would make Y cruel here. It only makes sense where it is.&#8221; Readers really do help. I&#8217;ve found myself combining scenes a lot to keep in the info I needed and still move the story along.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol J. Garvin</title>
		<link>http://jordanmccollum.com/2010/01/finding-weakness/#comment-2175</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol J. Garvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first drafts have a basic plan but then they pretty much move through scenes without me evaluating whether each one is playing a necessary role in the overall story. By the time I get to the revision stage the scenes all seem interconnected so slashing one has repercussions all along the line. Even when I scrutinize each scene asking questions to determine its purpose -- does it advance the story or develop a character or setting, etc.?  -- it&#039;s so easy to make excuses and find a reason to keep that fluffy scene! It drives me nuts.  Having a qualified critique partner make unbiased suggestions is my only salvation. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first drafts have a basic plan but then they pretty much move through scenes without me evaluating whether each one is playing a necessary role in the overall story. By the time I get to the revision stage the scenes all seem interconnected so slashing one has repercussions all along the line. Even when I scrutinize each scene asking questions to determine its purpose &#8212; does it advance the story or develop a character or setting, etc.?  &#8212; it&#8217;s so easy to make excuses and find a reason to keep that fluffy scene! It drives me nuts.  Having a qualified critique partner make unbiased suggestions is my only salvation. <img src='http://jordanmccollum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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