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Exporting from Scrivener to Word, happy style

Even if I decide to spring for Scrivener, I still have some fairly awesome editing tricks that only work in Microsoft Word. So I needed to figure out how to get my first draft out of Scrivener as cleanly as possible—especially since the Nano version Scrivener trial expires tomorrow, and I definitely won’t get it before Christmas.

So after some experimentation, I figured out the best way to get my manuscript in Word format without requiring a ton of reformatting. Here’s a screen-by-screen guide to make it easy to export from Scrivener into Word.

Preparation

First, I put every. single. chapter. in its own folder. Even if it was only one scene (file), I made sure it was in a folder, all at the top level (though I think the level isn’t terribly vital). I also made sure the folders themselves didn’t have a scene written in them—only nestled safely inside. (I also moved my character notes, etc., into the Manuscript folder just in case I don’t go for Scrivener.)

That took about an hour. You don’t have to use that exact structure, but be sure to use something systematic and remember what it is!

If you want it to generate your title page, be sure to fill out the appropriate title page information (above Manuscript).

Begin the compile

Once you’re organized, click the Compile button.

START with Novel Standard Manuscript Format or Times 12pt with Bold Folder Titles. The automatic output is not how I format my manuscripts nor is it the standard format that I’ve seen from publishers and agents (“Standard” claim notwithstanding), so I customized it to provide a clean manuscript I won’t have to heavily reformat by hand.

CONTENTS

Make sure all the appropriate files (folders & files) are checked—no check mark, no file. If you forgot to check the “Include in compile” check box on the scene, you can fix that here. Also, if you put any of your notes in the compile, you might have to check those as well.

Because of the way I was customizing my manuscript, I UNchecked all of the Pg Break Before and As-Is boxes. (Honestly, I don’t know what the second one does.)

SEPARATORS

This is where you need to remember how you organized your files and folders. The way that I organized mine, I could be sure that if there were two files next to one another, they were scenes in the same chapter, so they needed to be separated by a # or a *** or whatever you use. If a folder came before a folder, they were part of the same chapter. I didn’t have any folders next to folders, but when a file came before a folder, it was the beginning of a new chapter.

So under separators, remember how you’ve organized your files so you can tell it how to separate them. If you use the same system as me, here’s how I set up my separators.

Text Separator: Custom: # (or ***) — Two adjacent text files are always two scenes in the same chapter, so they’ll need a break like this.

Folder Separator: empty line — For me, I didn’t have this in my manuscript, so it didn’t matter.

Folder and Text Separator: empty line — The way I organized my files, there was never any text in the folder itself. This separator, then, controlled only the break between the chapter heading (CHAPTER ONE) and the beginning of the text. The default setting puts the chapter heading on its own page (but there’s another setting you have to tweak to fix this).

Text and Folder Separator: page break — With my organization, a folder that followed a file was always the beginning of a new chapter. So, new page.

FORMATTING

If you have formatted your text in Scrivener—using italics, or bold, or changing the fonts—uncheck Override text and notes formatting.

If your chapter (folder or file) titles are descriptive and part of the manuscript, make sure that the Title box is checked—but if you want Scrivener to automatically number your chapters, uncheck Level 1+ folder Title.

I tried clicking OPTIONS… and telling it to Place notes after main text. I was expecting this to put the Document and/or Project notes after the appropriate section, but I didn’t see those notes. (Mine weren’t very extensive so I just ported them by hand.)

UPDATE: A Scrivener rep stopped by with this handy tip in the comments. To export your notes:

You need to check off “Notes” in the Formatting pane grid. It’s to the left of “Text”. The option to place notes before or after the main text is irrelevant until that checkbox is on. When Notes are added, they will be presented in the preview editor, and can have independent formatting applied to them from the main text.

Now, if you’re using the same organization (i.e. folders hold chapters), and you do NOT want the chapter header on its own page or in Courier New, select the folder. Click the Modify button below.

This opens the menu to format the chapter headings. Adjust the Page Padding if desired (I believe this is the number of lines it skips before and after the chapter heading). Want “Chapter” instead of “CHAPTER”? Click on Section Layout…, select the Case tab and change Title Prefix to Normal. You can also click the A to set the font, size and other options.

TRANSFORMATIONS

To export to Word, you don’t need it to transform these things—smart quotes, em dashes, etc., have long been “standard” in manuscript format (as has TNR, but hey). So I recommend unchecking everything here.

I didn’t use Replacements or Footnotes/Comments, so the only other customizations were with . . .

PAGE SETTINGS

The default for the running header font is Courier New, even if your MS is in Times. So by Header font:, click on Choose… to change that. (It generates a header of Last name / TITLE / p#.)

If you’re using a title page, make sure Not on page 1 is checked. If you’re not using a title page, that’s up to your discretion.

Almost done!

COMPILE FOR

On every screen, just above the Compile, Save & Close and Save buttons, there’s a Compile For pull down menu. You can select Word and have it save as a .doc automatically.

Click the Compile button and voila! A clean manuscript!

Important note! Scrivener does not hyphenate compound numbers in automatically numbered chapters. So, basically 21-29, 31-39, etc., are misspelled, and you’ll have to add the hyphens by hand. But seriously, that was the least time consuming part of all my experimentation.

I consulted this post on compiling from Scrivener by Gwen Hernandez, author of Scrivener For Dummies, but figured out a whole lot with six experimental compiles.

What do you think? How do you compile from Scrivener?

Will Scrivener work for you? (& NaNoWriMo Finale!)

About to win Nano? Congrats! Don’t forget to verify your word count, or you won’t get your winner goodies—and one of those goodies is a coupon for 50% off the writing software Scrivener, which brings it down to $20 for Windows and $22 for Mac. On the Nanowrimo page, just click on My NaNoWriMo and select “Validate my novel.” Then cut and paste your text into the box.

On Scrivener, you’ll probably have to compile first. I had mine just output to an RTF file . . . and then I had to “adjust” it a little to match the word counts across Scrivener, Word and the Nano site.

Speaking of Scrivener, I tried it for Nano, and I’m honestly not 100% sure I’ll stick with it. Here’s what I thought—and we’ll discuss how to figure out if it will work for you!

What I like about Scrivener

I do like having character sketches and a little bit of my research (although there wasn’t much for this book) right there. Most of my research this time around was deep background, so it wasn’t worth saving. (Would this be enough X? Yes, great, moving on.)

One of the major features seems to be the ability to drag and drop a scene or chapter to a new location in the story, which I don’t really do with most of my books, probably because I largely write in sequential order. More often I have to move little parts of scenes, and then it’s still cut-and-paste. On the other hand, I decided I didn’t care for where my scene breaks fell in the last quarter of the document, so I merged the entire quarter into one file, and I’ll be able to split it up later.

I liked using the cork board and outline views to make sure I was going in the right direction, and to have my outline and notes integrated into the same program/document-type-thing? as my actual draft. It was also nice to be able to see the scene card and make notes on the scenes (and the whole project) in the same window as the writing screen. The full screen view was also nice for focusing, especially when I used my working timer.

I hear Scrivener also has excellent output for ebook formatting. Another great advantage is that if you’re writing a series, you can copy your characters, settings and research to a new project with ease, keeping things consistent.

What I don’t like about Scrivener

For me, the biggest problems with Scrivener were mostly software problems. I found a few “quirks” in the program annoying, especially that Outline view consistently forgot what columns and widths I meticulously set. It was a little slow on start up (perhaps comparable with Word there, though) and displaying the full manuscript in scrivenings mode.

Of course, I also didn’t like the feeling that I was only using a tiny fraction of the program’s potential—or, conversely, that I just had no idea how to use some of the features. (I still don’t quite get how the Collections are different.)

But really what it comes down to is: is this really that much better of a program than Word? As far as the word processing itself, I have to think the answer is no. Features like a decent built-in Autocorrect a decent spelling dictionary and more do make a different to me.

For me, I think the bottom line is Scrivener does more than Word, but it doesn’t do what Word does as well as Word can.

Will Scrivener work for you?

Some of deciding whether Scrivener will work for you depends on how you use your current word processor. For example, I use Word macros for editing my gesture & word crutches. To my knowledge, Scrivener doesn’t have an equivalent function, so if I use Scrivener long term for drafting, I’ll probably go to Word for editing.

Also, my critique partners use Word and I can be sure they’ll get exactly what I send them when I use the same program. If you do your editing online, or use the track changes and/or comments features on a lot of your editing, then Word might still be a necessity, too.

I used Scrivener on a new manuscript, and I think that helped my opinion. From what I’ve heard, importing an existing manuscript can be a challenge, and if you’re not yet committed to the program long-term, it doesn’t make sense to go through the effort.

The best way to tell if Scrivener works for you? Give the free trial a shot first.

Last year, the 50% off winners’ coupon was good through the following October. Of course, I didn’t get around to actually USING the free trial until November… Good thing I won again . . . if I decide to get it.

What do you think? Have you tried Scrivener? What do you like about it, and what don’t you like about it? Join the conversation—and tell me about your Nano!